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- From: dhaire@gate.net (doug haire)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: Any way to fight the phone company?
- Date: 4 Feb 1996 21:02:09 -0500
- Organization: CyberGate, Inc.
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- Bill Garfield (bubba@insync.net) wrote:
- : dhaire@gate.net (doug haire) wrote:
- :
- : >Marc Fuller (marc.fuller@vissgi.cvrti.utah.edu) wrote:
- : >: As a former AT&T employee, and not a particular happy one, I can tell you
- : >: your legal rights on this are nonexistent. If you want a conditioned (digital
- : >: quality) line they expect you to pay for it. You may, however, tell them your
- : >: having trouble sending faxes and get a better response. There is a good
- : >: chance that your second line is a SLCC ( a frequency multiplexed line on the
- : >: same pair of wires as your first) These often have problems with digital
- : >: transmission.
- : >
- : >Arrgggggh!!!! Once again, we have the myth of the SLC as a poor facility
- : >for data. The SLC is nothing more than digital carrier technology. If
- : >properly optioned, it is *better* than having standard copper all the way
- : >to your central office. I live 10 miles from my telco's CO and all three
- : >of my lines are on an SLC. I get 31200/31200 connects (solid and stable
- : >with rates of 3600+ cps on compressed files) over 90% of the time between
- : >2 USRs (my spare line to my BBS). SLC's do not "often have problems" with
- : >any modem connections and modems don't use digital transmission, they use
- : >analog.
- : >
- : >I am a current (25 years) employee of AT&T.
- :
- : Your counter-argument is factually correct Doug, but as we've discussed
- : in other forums, =YOUR= results, for the most part, do _not_ parallel
- : those experienced by many others who are doomed (yes, doomed) to receive
- : their telephone service via the ubiquitous Subscriber Loop Concentrator.
- :
- : In your particular case I think we've determined conclusively that the
- : SLC serving you is fully integrated and served by a full digital office.
- : While that scenario affords =YOU= the luxury of high performance phone
- : service, the fully integrated SLC + digital CO combination is certainly
- : more the exception than the rule out here in the trenches.
-
- Then the problem is *not* the SLC but the NON-digital office. Why blame
- the wrong equipment?
-
- : Your own situation is very unique, Doug. You're one of the lucky ones.
-
- No, the norm is no longer your situation but mine. At least in the southeast.
-
- : For most of us who receive our phone service from a neighborhood SLC it
- : means that we're multiple cable MILES from the switch and that switch is
- : most likely analog, and if not, it still has an old analog wire frame
- : ahead of it. It also means that we are *NOT* going to achieve 28.8k
- : performance out of our V34 modems, period. I guess we're all just going
- : to have to move to W. Palm Beach. :-)
-
- I pointed out that I am *10 miles* from my C.O. and I live west of West
- Palm Beach out in the swamp (a place called Loxahatchee). Again, the
- problem is not the SLC, it's your 50's technology central office. Why
- blame the wrong equipment? It makes no sense to me. To put you back on
- copper and hook you up to that old 1ESS, 1A-ESS, or 2B-ESS would make it
- even worse!
-
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